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Probleme beim Brother KH-910 Loch Muster

Verfasst: Mi Dez 14, 2011 19:43
von pnutzer
Hallo.

Ich habe eine Probleme mit meine Brother KH-910. Ich kann stricken Muster mit K-Carriage aber es ist ein Problem mit Loch Muster stricken. Wissen nicht wo ein fehler ist.

Zuerst stricken eingine glatt Reihen und setzen K-Carriage rechts. Einfuhren Muster und setzen Loch-Carriage links. Wann fuhren Loch-Carriage nach rechts Nadeln nicht gewahlen. Wer kann hilfe mich?

Entschuldigung Sie fur main Deutch, aber habe ich nicht das Info uber meine Probleme irdendwo gefunden :-)

(In other words, when operating with K-Carriage with regular patterns - needles are selected, using L-Carriage are not. Manual says that K should be on the right with NC set and L should be on the left. After this moving from left to right needles should be selected and Mylar sheet should feed the pattern. It does not happen. What could be wrong then?).

Verfasst: Mi Dez 14, 2011 21:15
von Die Strickschmiede
Hi,

sometimes there are little things that bring the hugest problems
:lol:

Again, step-by-step: the k is on the left side, switch to KC, then the K to the right, needles are selected. Leave it there. Put the sheet feeder from Stop (circle) to Start (triangle).
Now put the L on the left side and move it to the right, now it should work.
Move on until the sheet shows that you have to change to the K again.

Does this helps in a way?

Cheers
Kirsten

Verfasst: Mi Dez 14, 2011 21:22
von pnutzer
Thanks :-)

Lace-Carriage works if I select needles manually, but it does not work automatically as it should according to manual...

I'm not sure whether sheet feeder Stop and Start applies on KH-910 because there is no such thing I'm aware of. It uses mylar sheets that just need to be scrolled on feed line and then I need to press CF button which feeds mylar sheet with pattern.

My problem is that when placing K-Carriage with NC on the right and L-Carriage on the left side from the turning point and moving L-Carriage form left to right:
A. card does not feed
B. needles are not selected, they stay in B position.

L-Carriage back
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Verfasst: Mi Dez 14, 2011 21:34
von Die Strickschmiede
oh sorry, I wasn't aware, that the 910 is an electronic machine (even though I should be, as I own a 900).

So, I have to apologize, but this is kind of overchallenging me :oops:

Maybe some of the other members could help you -if there are some translating problems, please don't hesitate to contact me.

Cheers
Kirsten

Verfasst: Mi Dez 14, 2011 21:39
von Die Strickschmiede
Another idea: is it the correct L-Carriage with a magnet?

You may see it on the top of the carriage.

Cheers
Kirsten

Verfasst: Mi Dez 14, 2011 22:06
von pnutzer
I'm not sure that this is correct L-Carriage. I purchased it few weeks ago as a complete set (Brother KH910, L-Carriage, Garter etc). It looks like on the picture in my previous post. It has 2 magnets on the bottom side.

Verfasst: Do Dez 15, 2011 08:50
von Kerstin
Hi there,

The L-carriage hooks into the metal belt at the back of the needle bed, otherwise there is no way it could move the patterning device.
It also must pass the turn mark at left of the needle bed from the outside in, but I think that's self-evident. :-)
If the L-carriage does not select needles at all, it either is not the correct type for your machine, or if it is the correct one, it probably needs repair.

By the way, the L-carriage is a standard accessory to the KH 910, so there should be an image of it in your manual/instruction book. Perhaps you can compare how it should look and if it is the correct type?

Best regards,
Kerstin

Verfasst: Do Dez 15, 2011 09:35
von pnutzer
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When I operate L-Carriage it fits into metal timing belt. I also know that it must be on the left side of turning point. Unfortunately I cannot guess whether this L-Carriage is for this particular model of Brother or not.

If I select needles with K-Carriage with KCI/KCII then L-Carriage does its job perfectly, but after this I need to move it manually on the opposite side of the bed. It is more time consuming comparing to what should happen automatically (I mean selecting needles by L-Carriage).

Anyway, If someone could recognize on above pictures, whether it is correct one or not, I would appreciate :-)

Verfasst: Do Dez 15, 2011 10:48
von frieda
What I can say is that this carriage is suitable for electronic machines for it obviously has the necessary magnet.

Does it not preselect needles at all or might it be, that you started at the wrong point of the pattern so that the "knitting" rows are due just now? Did you try to move the L-Carriage for several rows or just this one row where nothing happened?

Kind regards,

frieda

Verfasst: Do Dez 15, 2011 11:53
von pnutzer
I assumed that L-Carriage should select needles, because K-Carriage should be set to NC according to manual. And with this NC set metal timing belt do not travel together with carriage, so nothing can be selected.

I knit few plain rows, place KC on the right (with NC), LC on the left and then move LC from left to right... without effect, it does not select needles. Also tried kniting one/few rows with KC and then moving back to operating LC but still it does nothing.

I made video yesterday, so if someone could be interesting in helping me out I can send link via private message :-)

Verfasst: Do Dez 15, 2011 12:11
von frieda
Sorry, I think I was on the wrong track, I made lace patterns with DK7 recently, there the pattern is made up slightly different than the usual brother patterns. I forgot that the K-Carriage is not set to KCI/II with the brother patterns, therefore there are no empty lines in the pattern as one would have it with the DK7 patterns ... :oops:

simply ignore the stuff I posted earlier. (except for the part with the mangnet, that one is applicable here anyway)

Kind regards,

frieda

Verfasst: Do Dez 15, 2011 12:25
von frieda
pnutzer hat geschrieben: I made video yesterday, so if someone could be interesting in helping me out I can send link via private message :-)
After seeing the video ...

I am not a pro when it comes to the KH910 so I cannot tell, if the stuff you do there to setup the pattern is right. The only thing that astonished me with teh video is that the L-Carrage is rather silent when it is moved. With my KH940 there is a lot more noise when the carriages are moved when they are attached to the transportation band. Are you sure that the transportatoin band is moved by the L-carriage?


Kind regards,

frieda

Verfasst: Do Dez 15, 2011 12:47
von Kerstin
Here's a photo of a "real" KH 910 lace carriage for comparison:

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As you can see, it does not have these spike-like golden wires, and the parts next to the center triangle that are black on your carriage are white on this one. Not sure if it makes a difference...

By the way, the top of this carriage is identical to yours, pnutzer.

Best regards,
Kerstin

Verfasst: Do Dez 15, 2011 12:55
von pnutzer
Erstmal: fieda, thank you for watching video :-)

Yes, L-Carriage moves together with transportation band (which on ebay is called Timing Belt). I noticed that it makes noise only when there are some needles selected by me by hand - so another assumption or rather proof that it works when needles are actually selected.

Verfasst: Do Dez 15, 2011 13:00
von pnutzer
Kerstin, you're right, there are some minor differences. Especially those 2 black stripes on the center.

Verfasst: Do Dez 15, 2011 22:15
von lene
I think this is the correct lace carriage. The KH 910 has so special dimensions on the main bed, that an other lace carriage never would fit to it. Please take a look at the trigger which fixes the carriage to the bed (right on top of your foto with the top view of your carriage) There should be a smal rectangular magnet. This magnet is responsible for the needle selection. So if it lacks the carriage can't work. I had this problem some years ago. And it tooks me a long time to find the error :roll:

Verfasst: Fr Dez 16, 2011 00:16
von pnutzer
I have this small rectangular magnet, but not sure what I need to do with it.

Verfasst: Fr Dez 16, 2011 09:27
von frieda
You don't have to do anything with it, it is sufficient that it is placed in the nose on the backside of the L-Carriage and once is pulled past the turn mark of the knitting machine when the pattern first was selected. The magnet then "tells" the knitting machine that pattern-knitting has been started.

Kind regards,

frieda

Verfasst: Fr Dez 16, 2011 09:48
von pnutzer
Nice :-)

I will try today.

Verfasst: Fr Dez 16, 2011 10:09
von pnutzer
Well, there is something else related to magnets.

KG88 :-)

Manual refers to some magnets, but they look differently than those available on ebay.

It can be run but do not knit and stays at the same place. I assume that this is also related to some magnets, because I don't have them and there is empty space on the back of my KG88.